Ender dirt - general

I'm working on puting it on near chronological order

rn?

yes

ok

10:51 AM

but were doing 1 video

10:51 AM

pls

you know thats still gonna be hard right

10:51 AM

doing 2 would still make it more digestible

ok but if both of those are in anything else but chronological order it just makes it all confusing and people stop caring about things REALLY fast plus again you said make it like a week apart between uplaods so he cant erspond so that means we have to edit BOTH videos and no break in between anwyay which just means 2 intros 2 outtros and even more scripting

10:52 AM

if its just 1 video it can all be in a row and be 1 video that is a stone wall he cant come back at

10:53 AM

and people wont stop caring like they ould if they saw the first and then needed to wait for the next

"near chronological"

yeah the original idea you said was that the big shit was in video 2 which wouldmt be chronological

I'll start by chronological order then continue to build bridges to prove a point and after I can't connect anymore I'll continue chronologically

[ Koolant ]〈 ctmpt 〉

ok but if both of those are in anything else but chronological order it just makes it all confusing and people stop caring about things REALLY fast plus again you said make it like a week apart between uplaods so he cant erspond so that means we have to edit BOTH videos and no break in between anwyay which just means 2 intros 2 outtros and even more scripting

well still

10:56 AM

engagement wise it would be good

10:57 AM

if the 1st video does decent then the second one will get a slight boost if we publish it fast enough

10:57 AM

spreading it further

10:58 AM

+ the second intro is gonna be a lot easier because we don't gotta introduce them to Ender

ki "israeli spy" rico

engagement wise it would be good

whitepine has 10 episodes and each one got less and less views

ki "israeli spy" rico

+ the second intro is gonna be a lot easier because we don't gotta introduce them to Ender

ig bro

[ Koolant ]〈 ctmpt 〉

whitepine has 10 episodes and each one got less and less views

because of loi

11:00 AM

loss of interest

ki "israeli spy" rico

I'll start by chronological order then continue to build bridges to prove a point and after I can't connect anymore I'll continue chronologically

ok problem with al ot of this is that things get new context and get worse with later context So were gonna have to remember to bring things ba ck up

if it takes to long then we loose views

ki "israeli spy" rico

loss of interest

yeah

11:00 AM

but when the og video is gonna get like

11:00 AM

5 views

11:00 AM

i doubt the next is gonna get more

11:01 AM

i mean we will need 2 thumbanils

11:01 AM

and descriptions

11:01 AM

and titles

11:01 AM

and its gonna look worse on us to be dragging an over 1 year old drama for two videos

11:01 AM

instead of being a 1 hit punch

I can do that I have nothing lower than a vidIQ score of 80

11:01 AM

on any new era kirico video

vidiq score can suck my dick

its a good indicator for if the videos is gonna reach its audience

like t he score you see when you are uploading and writing the desc and stuff?

11:06 AM

kirico

11:06 AM

what happens if we make a point in video 2 that is strengthened by a point in video 1

yesn't

people dont remember videos bro

they do

the point is gonna be weak if its not all in 1 sitting

ki "israeli spy" rico

they do

90% of viewers mindlessly consume

ki "israeli spy" rico

yesn't

ive had score way higher and it was still a flop isnt always accurate

11:07 AM

you dont even make drama content anyway

your video needs to match your title, thumpnail and description otherwise it still goes to the wrong audience causing less views (edited)

if we split the video in 2 parts by the time part 2 is out and we're saying stuff about idk KAMA or smth the viewers memory is gonna already be hazy about the first video and we'd need to spend 10% of video 2 just reminding the viewer about some things in video 1 and this assumes people watch both videos If a viewer only watches video 2 they are confused and dont understand much If only video 1 they just assume it isnt that bad if its all 1 video then the ppl wjo do watch all of it (or at least skim through it) get the majority of the story in 1 sitting

[ Koolant ]〈 ctmpt 〉

90% of viewers mindlessly consume

i've seen a youtuber in germany making 17 parts about another youtuber and all the crimes he committed and he still backtracks to his previous videos to connect and argue

11:11 AM

I mean yes hes bigger than us but its stupid of you to assume that all audiences work the same

11:12 AM

people who watch long form documentaries usually keep more infos in mind than minecraft challange watchers

ok and you have like 125 subs nobody knows ender like 17 parts kinda proves my point because wtf with that he HAS to be reminding people every 5 seconds of previous things

ki "israeli spy" rico

people who watch long form documentaries usually keep more infos in mind than minecraft challange watchers

which is basically your audience because you have like 5 videos from different niches

11:13 AM

the video's prime audience is the whitepine community, enders friends, and random viewers

11:13 AM

not seasoned documentary watchers

11:13 AM

who are gonna remember everything some weird gay dude did

11:13 AM

17 parts vro

11:14 AM

even if its just 2 videos its gonna look like we are dragging it

dawg

unless your viewers were used to long exposes then they wont remember that

if you belive that two shorter videos would do bad because they wouldn't retain information

11:15 AM

then 1 wouldn't work either

11:15 AM

because they still wouldn't retain the information

wdym

11:16 AM

its the same amount of info

11:16 AM

but instead of being 1 week apart its in 1 video

11:16 AM

if we make it 40 minutes and engaging people will watch all of itand remember it

11:16 AM

some will

11:16 AM

lets be honest not a lot of people are going to watch all of it

11:16 AM

nobody knows ender

11:16 AM

2 videos makes that worse

thats also why two would be better

and really just harder to make

ki "israeli spy" rico

thats also why two would be better

???

if people watch 10 minutes into the 40 minute video then thats 1/4th of the video if they do the same for a 20minute video then thats 1/2 way better retention

11:19 AM

plus we could pace pt 2 better because

11:20 AM

because we could use the plot line twice (edited)

retention isnt the only factor in an expose landing its the pacing and tone and strength of the arguments If 2 videos and video 1 is weaker but has things that video 2 relies on it just adds a point of failure to the whoe argument ?>.. video 2 cant land as well without video 1 but we cant garuntee people watch both

ki "israeli spy" rico

because we could use the plot line twice (edited)

is this not saying a long video is better anyway

[ Koolant ]〈 ctmpt 〉

is this not saying a long video is better anyway

its a plot line graph

11:22 AM

it looks the dame for any length

11:22 AM

the build up to midpoint and climay just takes longer

[ Koolant ]〈 ctmpt 〉

retention isnt the only factor in an expose landing its the pacing and tone and strength of the arguments If 2 videos and video 1 is weaker but has things that video 2 relies on it just adds a point of failure to the whoe argument ?>.. video 2 cant land as well without video 1 but we cant garuntee people watch both

retention is currently the most important factor on youtube and would already depend on pacing, tone and strength of the arguments

11:24 AM

because otherwise they wouldn't keep watching

ki "israeli spy" rico

retention is currently the most important factor on youtube and would already depend on pacing, tone and strength of the arguments

you can have someone watch a vido all the way through and get nothing out of it vs only watch half and understand more t ho

11:24 AM

if video 2 is just the real evidence how would we eve ntransitition that

11:25 AM

like ghey guys ik this seems like weaksauce evidence but dw next video will have all the extra shit so go watch that in a week

[ Koolant ]〈 ctmpt 〉

you can have someone watch a vido all the way through and get nothing out of it vs only watch half and understand more t ho

which is fine because it still boosts retention

11:25 AM

leading to it maybe getting recomended to someone who whatches

ki "israeli spy" rico

which is fine because it still boosts retention

but the expose videos getting 10k views wont matter if nobody follows the story

ki "israeli spy" rico

leading to it maybe getting recomended to someone who whatches

oh getting it out of the niche?

yes

if we just made video 1 a really good video tho it would do the same

11:26 AM

1 video

bros been typing for 30 minutes

Making two videos would be the better start tho, each video gets pushed by the algorithm separately and therefore we get double the potential chance of the video going viral or at least doing great and retention wise it's easier to keep viewers watching for like 60% of a 20 minute video than keep viewers watching 60% on a 40 minute video, also you and I are used to making like 15 minute videos. 5 more minutes aren't gonna change anything, it would be way easier to script and pace than a video more than double our usual length. You haven't even thought about the cliffhanger that will heighten the tension, which is something needed in exposés. If we just do it right then we can hook the viewers from part one to part two, hell they might even sub to see part two which in return boost part two again. You also forgot that we will have a higher amount on two videos compared to one which will potentially scare of Big S from responding which will basically make us win, and I like winning. Winners love winning (wlw), also repetition would be way less of a problem, while there's good repetition like callbacks or reframing there's also bad repetition like repeating information the viewer already knows without adding new shit or filler.

11:58 AM

god my hands hurt

i can defo tell you care a lot about retention and views and shit BUT STILL, we ARENT known, an expose on a random person that nobody is invested in MIGHT get views but probably wont get anything like any of your other content you post that is trendy and punches well. a 2-parter expose from 2 randos on a rando they dont care about and arent invested in just isnt going to work like bigger creators or dramas do but cliffhangers and tension only works if people are actually committed to this which is gonna be harder with 2 videos anyway i mean, i guess if 2 videos gets more retention and views i guess but still, very low chance anyone is engaged and id argue that having 2 smaller videos gives ender room to just ignore the second one and say our arguments are weak anyway Since people are dumb and very much like just ignoring huge bits of context and only fighting against the weakest arguments which the entrety of video 1 would be if we dont include the big shit in it and its just like immaturity and shit arguments it weakens everything. a well paced 30-40 minute video should work way better than 2 videos that expect people to care and continue, for its purpose, which is to tell the story and get the expose' out. also an ender response wouldnt happen anyway once we pull out the evidence of sexual minipulation or wahtever and if it did, well thats an easy win and a part 2 which WOULD actually meaningfully add onto the saga as a proper expansion and snowball from part 1

12:19 PM

if its 2, if ender does respond, he's now responding to a wall with a crack in it with easy ways to ignore arguments or try to twist our words, vs 1 video being an impenetrable wall. video is already gonna be in acts and segments anyway; with chapters and other things it is digestable anyway and could be similar to a 2 parter anyway as we'd have cliffhangers or tension mid video we dont want just a part 1 of minecraft drama and him being a bit weird or annoying. with how we acted, viewers will just think we were immature and not care, thus part 2 probably wont get shit for returning viewers and be weakened anywya, even if we do stucture it well enough to not need to repeat things and still make it make sense. it just works better if we dont have to rely on the assumption that people care

12:19 PM

gtg driving now

12:20 PM

1 video would also allow us to have a hook in the intro alluding to there being much worse things later in the video rather than like aurafarming last second for a cliffhanger

12:21 PM

which would keep people engaged because t hey want to see how it goes from minecraft drama to bad things

12:21 PM

which might give the viewer more of a reason to actually give a shit about 3 random people

12:22 PM

and makes it feel more serious

12:23 PM

again think of the audience

"we aren‘t known..."

plays back into my argument of two videos, because two videos will heighten the chance of the video blowing up which is what we want, bigger view number corresponds with people who care

"a 2 parter exposé from 2 randos on a rando…"

your argument kills itself if you assume that the Ender aspect exposé wont do well as a two parter because people don’t care then it’s gonna also fail as one part by your logic, also assuming that people don‘t care about her shows that you haven’t really learned anything on YouTube. The second rule of YouTube is that people will watch everything, plus if our packaging is good enough then people will automatically care because we intrigued them, PLUS the video about Ender is already linked to the niche drama which from a hypothetical point of view will ensure more viewers for us because my last two videos were controversial/ drama related. My original title for the pppt video was literally „The Tragic Demise of Poppy Playtime“ the most over dramatic title possible, my ralsei is asriel video had me arguing with my own viewership. My most viewed videos may be gaming related but they‘re all in the Drama sub-niche, and if they aren’t then they fail.

"if 2 videos gets more retention..."

again your assuming people won't be engaged to the video which is a slippery slope fallacy your claiming that people not knowing us or ender will lower the videos reach, which just isn't connected that way. If we make a well paced, intriguingly looking video then logically there is gonna be people that are probably gonna want to see that. Also you repeatedly running into inconsistency fallacies, you fear that a 2 parter might not do well because people don't care which would also apply for a singular video.

"id argue that having 2 smaller videos..."

again inconsistency and assumption your a) assuming ender will ignore the second one because she might argue that out arguments are weak. Your not seeing though that the same thing could happen just as well for a one parter, ender isn't gonna magically call the arguments weak and not respond because we make it a two parter, and like I said like half a sentence ago, nothing stopping ender from doing the same for a one parter.

"people are dumb and very much like just ignoring huge bits of context..."

which would give us more stuff to argue about, if ender ignores context, takes something out of context or only argues against weak points then we can just point that out. Maybe if we're lucky we even get to link that into another argument judging by the fact Ender has never apologized to anyone ever before and wont change said habit of course.

"if we dont include the big shit..."

like I said we'll do it near chronological meaning we can use stuff that hasn't happened yet or has already happened, like when we're talking about ESMPR when can say that one of the people we talked to after(zet) alleges that ender cheated during ESMPR and while we're at that we can strengthen the argument by also using Ice Cream saying she did so on another server.

"a well paced 30-40 minute video should work way better..."

that's the thing it statically won't something like that would be the case if we were big youtubers for youtubers at our size a lot of uploads with high engagement are important like I've repeated for the 4th time now. I also asked in VidIQ what would realistically be smarter, they pointed out that the 2 videos will have higher total views, easier to keep retention, re-engagement, a hook due to the cliffhanger, it would be less intimidating, it would be easier to digest and we'd have 2 titles and thumpnails, so we could essentially learnt from part one. One of the admins has also pointed out that my subscribers seem to watch anything I upload which is true my percentage of Regular viewers is far over average(gotta suck myself a little more)

3:03 PM

"also an ender response wouldnt happen anyway..."

then why are you like scared there's gonna be bits of that in video 1

3:05 PM

"if its 2, if ender does respond..."

you said it yourself "easy ways to ignore arguments or try to twist our words" again more fuel for us

3:08 PM

"1 video being an impenetrable wall..."

we talk about the same shit regardless of whether it's one video or two, the arguments don't get weaker just because they're split across two uploads. if anything your logic works against you again here, you're assuming ender responds to part one before part two drops, which we control, we decide when part two comes out, if ender responds in like day one of part one dropping we can just drop part two earlier, and now ender has responded to half the story and looks stupid. and even if ender does respond to part one and tries to make our arguments look weak, that just means part two drops with even more context that directly counters whatever ender said, so now ender isn't responding to a cracked wall, ender is responding to a wall and then we built another wall around her. the "impenetrable wall" argument only works if we have no control over timing which we do. (edited)

"digestable anyway..."

that's info you know after watching the video you aren't gonna know if it's digestible before watching it, also if it's gonna be similar to a two parter anyway then why not just make a two parter also your talking about cliffhangers in plural, I hope you know that having multiple cliffhangers weakens them the end of part one would also mark a good spot for a cliffhanger we should even do more than that because I looked to up and according to some writers on r/FanFiction a good cliffhanger leaves you hanging for 1-3 weeks .

"we dont want just a part 1 of minecraft drama..."

realistically with everything that came after we were in the server and minecraft we'd come to Ice Cream and CozyCo no problem